After a whopping 72 days of marriage to basketball star Kris Humphries, Kim Kardashian has filed for divorce.
At the end of the day, none of us know (and presumably most of us don’t care) what happened behind closed doors – and one must assume that the newlyweds are making the best decision they know to make. Yet, something about the situation totally grinds my gears.
I’m sick and tired of people saying that gays will destroy the sanctity of marriage. In reality, I think straight people (a la Kim Kardashian and her 72 day marriage) have done a pretty good job of that themselves.
While marriage may be evolving, I think the best thing for it is when two people, deeply in love, express their genuine commitment to one another. Whether those two people are man and woman, woman and woman or man and man is totally irrelevant. Marriage is about love and commitment – and the institution of marriage should consider itself lucky to include us homos among its ranks.
In the comments below, speak now… or forever hold your peace.
November 1, 2011 at 11:37 am
I agree 100%, my friend made the same comment yesterday. I stumbled upon this clip that truly gives me hope as a young gay, that we are progressing. It may not be as fast as we would like but we are getting there regardless. Every time I see this clip, it brings a smile because it just makes me happy that in this world that these two people were able to marry.
Clip I was talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuMan8KT8Tw
November 1, 2011 at 11:52 am
I know gay or lesbian couples together for, 5, 10, 15 years. We can do it better than many straight couples. Sanctity of marriage is a BS excuse, with no weight.
November 2, 2011 at 11:25 am
26 years here and still going strong
November 1, 2011 at 11:53 am
Totally agree with you. Sanctity of marriage is a ridiculous justification again.st gay marriage when fifty percent or more marriages end in divorce and untold millions (?)shout of people cheat on their spouses.
November 1, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Not only that, but think of how much money was completely wasted on this hoax of a wedding. think of all the good it could have gone to in our country.
November 1, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Check your second paragraph…..some words are missing.
November 1, 2011 at 12:40 pm
I’m personally straight but I’m completely pro gay marriage and I agree with you 100%. Expressing love and committing yourself should be a human right.
November 1, 2011 at 1:24 pm
This was exactly what I was thinking.
How can one say gay people will smudge the sanctity of marriage, if some straight couples can’t see it through?
Okay…. there are instances in which you just can’t make it work, and in those cases divorce is the only way to handle it…. but when your married for 72 days, you cannot justify getting a divorce (especially after a $7.000.000 wedding) just citing irrecocilable differences, which is what she stated as the reason. This just turns heads and makes people wonder if the marriage was a complete hoax.
Honestly… they vowed to stand by each other in sickness and health, better or worse until the end of their lives! this just feels like a load of BS.
I thinks gays would do a better job at being married. But alas…. being gay I might be deemed bias….
Marriage is too big a deal to take part in light-hearted.
I can totally get why some people claim her marriage to be a scam to boost view-rates…..
November 1, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Ellens’ wedding also was quite the spectacle, but at least she lives up to her vows to Portia….
November 1, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Marriage is a license granted by the state. Love is a gift granted by God.
November 1, 2011 at 1:47 pm
This isn’t really about marriage. It’s about hypocrisy and hate. As humans we will always find a way to hate and put others down. We will use politics, religion and anything else to feel better about ourselves. People don’t like being called out on their s**t.
November 1, 2011 at 4:39 pm
I agree wholeheartedly with you Davey! All people should have the same right to marry if they want to.
November 1, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Okay I was just wondering what day St. Davey’s Day is on because Davey you are a f*****g saint when it comes to these kind of things. I would kiss you but your in Rhode Island and I am in Ohio. You should write a colume for your city’s newspaper. (:
November 3, 2011 at 1:11 am
@Patrick:
Hi Patrick![if you are the same Patrick,along with Voldemort,and others,with whom I've corresonded on BTI before:AND,if your not,Hi Patrick nevertheless!1]
Did you know that not Davey Wavey,but St.David is the patron saint of Wales?
November 3, 2011 at 2:56 am
@ Bill (Guillermo3) – Relevance?
November 1, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
November 1, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Once again, politics (and entertainment) trump common decency… 72 days? That is just bad decision making… Shows the “Kim” character… I am appalled…
November 1, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Oh the censoring is automatic. That’s why my phucking is censored. That’s a cool yet also lame setting.
November 2, 2011 at 11:24 am
If f**k, s**t and the like pass muster with the editor of the New Yorker magazine, they ought to pass muster here. The culture is a-changing.
November 3, 2011 at 1:22 am
@Patrick:
Yes Patrick!
It sure Fu.king is:LAME!!
P.S.:Firefox is also lame,almost as much as that fiking betch,Ms.Clear.
November 3, 2011 at 2:32 am
@ Patrick and Joel – What about C U N (next) T (uesday) or C#*t? Oops, I censored that one myself.
There is a plethora of other more expressive and less offensive words in the English language that could be substituted for course language. I think it’s lazy to rely on expletives. It shows a general lack of intellect and good manners!
Look at me, I sound like good ol’ Bill (Guillermo3). But seriously…..
November 3, 2011 at 3:41 am
@Jason(+J). The point is, these common expletives have become so overused in everyday language that they have lost their shock value. I understand your point; those who use expletives liberally do so for a lack of a more descriptive vocabulary. English is such a rich language. Use it or lose it.
November 1, 2011 at 11:49 pm
I don’t really get the whole ‘sanctity of marriage’ discussion anyway. What has that got to do with anything? Here in the Netherlands any couple who wants to get married has to have a civil marriage. Nothing holy about that. If you choose to, you can then have a church wedding but always AFTER the official civil wedding. Skipping the civil one and going straight for the religious one can’t be done, the religious authority will want to see proof of the civil marriage beforehand as it’s illegal to perform a religious wedding to non-married couples. And the beauty of this arrangement is; a civil marriage is never ‘holy’ and thus there is no sense in talking about the sanctity or lack of it. So when over 10 years ago our (Yes, 10 years already!) legislation was changed so same gender couples could marry there wasn’t much discussion about the sanctity (or lack of it). My suggestion is; get the seperation of church and state done and over with and there’s no ‘sanctity’ issue left to drop dead over.
November 2, 2011 at 3:47 am
I agree. Even though our governing body is supposed to be church and state independent there are still some quarks. One of them is marriage. Our founding fathers had some religion, puritan, christian, quaker, what ever. I’m not an expert on this but as far as I understand this the government recognizes a religious marriage as civil marriage and can delegate civil marriages without a religious one. With that being said, and that fact that the people who set up the government were also religious, the civil marriage in the US has an essence of sanctity. But once again, I agree that there needs to be a complete separation of church and state on the issue of marriage. While the church can hold it’s sanctity, the state can hold it’s state of being (with another person) and all the legal pros and cons. Times are definitely different from the founding era of our country. And changes need to be addressed. Humans are adaptable creatures. Its within our nature to change. Without change, we will be left behind and inevitably be left behind in the memories of the universe.
November 2, 2011 at 2:26 am
Maybe this was a same sex marriage: perhaps they had the same sex every night, same position, no variation, always doggy style?
November 2, 2011 at 11:21 am
Oh, you are funny, Klaus.
November 2, 2011 at 3:05 am
Yes… Kim Kardashian is filing for divorce. During this difficult time, the Kardashian family requests…. AS MUCH ATTENTION AS POSSIBLE!!!!
November 2, 2011 at 6:16 am
ABSOLUTELY AGREE! THEY SHOULD BE JAILED FOR FRAUD! WHAT ABOUT THE “WEDDING GIFTS” AND THE RINGS? WE HAD TO PUT UP WITH THIS MEDIA SHOW FOR MONTHS…WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT THESE SOUL-LESS BEINGS? NOT US BUT THE REST OF THE MORONIC AND NON REALISTIC POPULATION OF THE USA…GOD BLESS AMERICA, INDEED!
November 2, 2011 at 11:22 am
AMEN.
November 2, 2011 at 3:51 am
Maybe they should set up more strenuous legal ramifications for divorcing and abusing marriage than just the fees and processes it takes to get divorced.
November 2, 2011 at 9:02 am
Yeah i agree 100% but maybe the reason gay couples stay together for so long is because they can’t get married. Have u ever look at it that? maybe marrage is the problem not?
November 2, 2011 at 1:10 pm
then how come my parents are still married after 43 years? Of course there were crappy moments! but a couple promises together to try and thwart them. and honestly…. how many irreconcilable differences can one encounter in the FIRST SEVENTY-TWO days of marriage? I suppose that time is just one big blue movie….
November 3, 2011 at 2:42 am
In many countries though, are same sex relationships even considered a statistic? How do governments and opponents to marriage equality even know how the divorce rate will be impacted, portionately or disportionately, if at all if there are no statiscs on same sex relationships.
Think…. if same sex relationships aren’t even recognised by governments, etc, how could there possibly be statistics kept on them?
November 3, 2011 at 3:55 am
@Jason (+J). Here in the States, we measure EVERYTHING. The states regulate marriage and divorce and they keep statistics on same.
November 2, 2011 at 10:12 am
I’d just like to point out that this post and the “Straight Boys Kissing” post both have more votes than the post between them which deal with useless topics like the beauty of nature and making deep connections with people. ^.^
November 2, 2011 at 10:14 am
And by votes I mean comments… xD Sorry! Don’t know what I was thinking. And I meant the “posts” between them… f**k. Nevermind. xD
November 3, 2011 at 2:15 am
Really? Wow! Maybe we get too caught up in negativity and should be sharing love instead.
November 3, 2011 at 2:36 am
@Connor. BTI is like a magazine. You may not like every article. I though Davey’s topics on deep breathing and making eye contact very pertinent to his self-improvement program. Davey’s approach is holistic–body and soul. Now, take a few deep breaths and come back because we love you.
November 2, 2011 at 11:25 am
Totally agree with this view. And Sanctity, Smanktity (don’t believe that is a word)…marriage isn’t a game it is a commitment. I should know. I was married for 13 years to a woman until I decided to live my truth as a gay man. But I still believed in trying to make it work even though I wasn’t being true to myself. In the long run, I finally had to stand up and be me.
My only observation around this is until there is some history around how long gay and lesbian marriages last, we need to be careful how hard we throw those stones at our own glass houses. When we make these comments about gay relationships that have lasted longer, etc., while true, to our narrow-minded hetero ostriches with their heads in the sand who don’t get that love is love, these statements actually give them fuel to say, “Show me a gay marriage that has withstood the test of time.” Of course their so stupid and still digging sand out of their ears to realize that if they would permit us to marry, then we might just become the new “happily ever after!”
The point, we need some hard fast facts to show that gay marriages are actually lasting longer. Of course given that the first gay marriages didn’t even occur in Massachusetts until 2004 we may need let some more time pass. But what could be interesting would be to get some numbers of how many MA gay and lesbians got married, how many of them are still married and compare that to how many hetero MA residents got married and are still married.
Regardless, Kim K. soak up some more stupid publicity around your ridiculous antics and when one day your a has been remember, love is love and that should have been what you did this for.
November 3, 2011 at 2:48 am
Unfortunately, Rick, the first ever gay marriage in the U.S. ended in divorce. We should expect that LGBT people will marry for the same wrong reasons as do heterosexuals. Afterall, we all hale from the same self-involved culture.
November 2, 2011 at 11:41 am
I hate to bore you with statistics, BUT social studies report that the rates of divorce are highest in the Bible Belt, where the “sanctity of marriage” is so roundly defended. Also, the children of gay couples are better balanced than those of straight couples according to a recent study. “Sanctity of marriage” and other claims of the religious right such as, children do best when they have both a mommy and a daddy, are just hypocrisy.
November 3, 2011 at 3:43 am
@Joel:
Joel,I hate to disagree with you,& rarely do,but I think kids in 2 parent families [a scarcer and scarcer arrangement the last few decades,sadly] DO have a better chance_unless,of course ommy or Daddy is a Ho’,or a drunk,or worse:a tea-bagger.
November 3, 2011 at 4:04 am
@Guillermo. I stated the case badly. The FRC, among others, have maintained that all children require a mommy and a daddy to become well-adjusted. The study refutes their case. Children require a stable home environment, be it straight couple, gay couple or single for security. And, yes, two parents are preferable to one.
November 2, 2011 at 12:11 pm
I totally agree. in my book, the definition of marriage is when 2 people make a commitment to love each other, take care of each other and build a life together. The genders are irrelevant. It is time to make sure that any two people who want to get married on these terms to have to right to do it.
Filling for divorce after only 72 days is destroying the very concept of marriage and makes me think that she just wanted a wedding, not a marriage, two things very different. To blow 10 millions dollars and to make 18 in profit just to get divorce 2 months after and still make profit for the divorce! I am all about living and letting live but I can’t help but calling them out on this for some reason I am shocked about this whole story.
November 2, 2011 at 12:17 pm
here here – the 50% divorce rate has nothing to do with the sexual orientation of the people involved. I think it’s a sign of the times, people are just not will to put the work into their vows.
sad but true.
November 2, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I agree. The hypocrisy of it all bothers me so much. They can’t just see the love, desire and commitment going into marriage for the gay community. And then keep a blind eye to the straight community abusing it. It doesnt surprise me to see her (a celebrity after all) divorcing so early, but with how much anti-gay marriage talk going around, it’s become really magnified for me.
November 2, 2011 at 1:16 pm
After a 27 year committed relationship with my partner, we were married in that small window of opportunity we had here in California. Unfortunately, my husband died 139 days later to cancer. (We didn’t realize he had cancer when we married.) I’m so glad we did get married. I’m still wearing my wedding band almost three years later. Our loving relationship certainly lasted longer than many of the straight people in our lives.
November 2, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@Davey Wavey:@ all Blog Buddies:
Shame,Davey!! :I’m reporting you to the FRC [who recently advertised on these pages].Advice (Warning!/Rappel!/Peligrossa!):Don’t let Kim sell you any rugs!!!
November 3, 2011 at 2:19 am
@ Bill (Guillermo3) – What are you on about now? What is this FRC thing? Is it my Australianess or are you a biscuit short of a packet of Iced Volvos, (touch) &Amp!
November 3, 2011 at 2:24 am
@ Bill (Guillermo3) – correction: not “(touch)” but “(a touch)” – as in “a little bit”! Don’t go pickin’ on my typing skills again. LOL.
November 3, 2011 at 3:03 am
@Jason (+J). For you extraterritorialists, the FRC is the Family Research Council, a tax-exempt organization of the Religious Right whose main reason for existence is the legal opposition to homosexuality (a choice) and any legislation granting gay rights (“special rights”).They are the major proponents of the “sanctity of marriage” and opponents of the adoption of children by gays and gay couples.They use their anti-gay crusade as their major fundraising tool. They are an offshoot of Focus on the Family, a Christian broadcast originating from Colorado Springs, Colorado. I suspect the biscuits you refer to are known as cookies here and that Volvos are something other than cars in the Great Down Under.
November 3, 2011 at 4:58 am
@ Joel – I stuffed it, I meant Iced Vo Vo! I don’t eat them much. Yes they are cookies.
I’m also the same Jason you’ve replied to before, I just added the + J. to separate myself from another Jason.
November 3, 2011 at 4:59 am
@ Joel – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iced_Vo_Vo
November 3, 2011 at 5:05 am
Do these FRC people also file lawsuits against anyone who defames them? I hear lawsuits are a regular form of income for the Westboro Baptist Church.
The FRC sound alot like the ACL here. (Australian Christian Lobby).
November 3, 2011 at 7:49 am
Jason (*+J). In the U.S. two things are required to prove libel: one the defamatory statement must be true and two the intent must be malicious. Unfortunately, for the FRC, the statements are rarely false. In the U.S. with our free speech laws, it is nearly impossible for a public figure to win a libel suit. Texas has a law which allows corporations to sue for defamation and they use it to muffle their opponents. In a famous lawsuit here the cattle ranchers lost in court to Oprah Winfrey, who said on t.v. she would never eat another hamburger because of the treatment of cattle in slaughter houses.
November 4, 2011 at 11:27 pm
@ Joel – No, I meant the FRC suing other people not people suing them.
November 5, 2011 at 12:20 am
@Jason (+J). I understood you correctly. The FRC is a public institution with publicly stated policy goals as opposed to a private party. Our Supreme Court so rigorously upholds the free speech right that it is all but impossible for a public person or a public corporation to win a libel suit. If you remember, Jerry Falwell sued Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine over a defamatory cartoon they published in the magazine. Flynt defended himself on First Amendment grounds and Falwell, a publicly recognized person, lost. Other countries do not uphold the free speech right as rigorously as we, especially in regard to defamation. I think that is the case in Great Britain and perhaps Australia.
November 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm
You hit the nail on the head! I find the double-morale intriguing, them telling us that we destroy the marriage while they are married for the third time.
November 2, 2011 at 4:36 pm
I couldn’t agree more. Love is love, regardless of gender or sexual orientation. Our society has a lot of work to do to fix our views on what love and commitment really mean.
November 2, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Until today, I didn’t know who Kim Kardashian was. I’m so tired of celebrities, their ridiculous outfits, and their antics that you’d have to hit me over the head, as Davey did today, to get my attention. A celebrity is someone who is famous for being famous. If this marriage sets some kind of standard, Hollywood divorce lawyers will have to revise their prenuptial agreements by adding timelines: A)for marriages lasting less than one month; B) for marriages of one month to one year; C) etc.
November 3, 2011 at 1:38 am
@Joel:
Great comment,Joel:
Reminds me of the wonderful landlady of the wonderful Nur Pansyion,where I stayed near Ephesos.For those who took meals there,she served dinner “family style”,& she would introduce new guests each night:One night she introduced the head of a Norwegian family,saying.”This is Lars.He’s a liar.”Amazing!”,I replied__”That’s what we call them in America”.
November 3, 2011 at 2:50 am
@ Joel – then you were blissfully unaware, thus proving “ignorance is bliss”. These people, who become famous via a sextape posted online, may have no clearly discernable talent, but they certainly know how to out last their allotted 15 minutes.
November 2, 2011 at 7:53 pm
To be honest, I think that God, (who people are making a vow to through the personage of a priest) already knows how long and why the two couple got married.
If the lawyers want to have some of the divorce funding pie with their percentages, want to say that they live good and honest lives by officiating the legal game of marriage, let them.
God knows them too, and isn’t going to be fooled when a lawyer says “I made my living honestly, by telling the world that these two broke their vow to you and did it legally.”
A vow is only worth the integrity of the person making it. My grandparents lived a fully loving, dedicated and tough life, my grandfather surviving heart attack after heart attack and surgery to be with his wife who was suffering with Alzheimer’s, and didn’t know who he was, but knew he was there for the rest of her life, is a testament to a person trying his best to have a good marriage.
I’d believe my grandfather when he said he loved my grandmother, do I believe Kim? Not so much.
(The photograph of her has her head tilted away from the subject of her matrimony – was that a before marriage picture or after??)
November 2, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Having been married for 16 years, then coming out and getting divorced, I can honestly tell you that although I enjoyed almost every minute of it, at the end of the day it came down to a piece of paper… the actual marriage license. Myself, I’d do it again (with a man this time around), so really I am not sure I fully understand why it is such a big deal. Certainly there can be no equality until such time as EVERYONE that wants to get married is able to, and as Davey said, Kim K. is doing a fine job of messing it up for straight people around the globe. However, in her case, not being the brightest crayon in the box, her like of knowledge/insight had a lot to do with it. That, and being the wise old age of 20something. Wait until you are at least 27 or so and been on your own for a few years.
Someday very soon I can easily foresee gays and lesbians getting/being happily married.
Hugs to all.
xoxo
November 3, 2011 at 1:47 am
@neverknew:
Hi nev!!
Actually,many,if not most, of the founding fathers were deists_an Enlightenment belief that God set up the universe like a clock:wound it up,and let it run.
As for legal right to same sex marriage,except for laws passed in some states/counties/etc. by right-wing f.ckheads to ban it,That right exists in the 15th amendment:Equality under the law.
November 3, 2011 at 3:19 am
@Bill, It has only been within the last year or so that the Supreme Court has recognized LGBT people as a “protected group” under the equal protection clause of the 15th amendment. It remains to be seen which standard the federal courts will apply in determining discrimination against us. “Strict scrutiny” is the most careful scrutiny and it may be held when the California 9th circuit case (gay marriage) gets to the Supreme Court. Despite its conservative majority, the present Court has struck down state laws criminalizing gay sodomy (Texas) and state law preventing non-discrimination of LGBT people (Colorado). There is hope yet. May Justice Kennedy have a long and healthy life.
November 3, 2011 at 5:08 am
@ Joel – He only responds to Bill (Guillermo3) remember?
November 3, 2011 at 2:44 am
@Jason(+J.)
OOaawwhhh!Jus’ gawt yer comment.Jyeson(+J.)Wha th’ Fawk,myte?! Haven’t the slightest what “one biscuit short of a pack of Iced Volvoes” means,bu’ ah lyke it!!!
‘Ere in th’ civliysed wuld,[sorry:must continue in English,not fluent in Austrylun] FRC stands for Family Research Council,a relative of Focus on the Family:virulently right-wing,anti-gay,anti-gay marriage backers of the Defense of Marriage Act.
Like your amended(+J.) tag,Jason_G’dye,Mate!!
November 3, 2011 at 3:05 am
@ bill(Guillermo3) – I don’t do cockney! And it’s G’day Mate!
I just have a feeling you’re not quite all there (but in a good way), aka: not the full deck (of cards), nuttier than a fruit cake perhaps.
I end all my emails with the tag + J. Since I discovered another Jason here (with a link to a website) I thought I’d toss it in.
November 3, 2011 at 3:48 am
@Jason (+J). Welcome to the club of the cognoscenti!
November 3, 2011 at 5:57 am
@ Joel – you mean world of the “blow hard” (strictly non sexual!!!!)? Thanks, I think.
November 3, 2011 at 7:56 am
@Jason. When did you discover Guillermo3 is a few biscuits short?
November 4, 2011 at 11:30 pm
@ Joel – LOL – Umm?
November 3, 2011 at 2:59 am
@Jason(+J.):
Jason(+J.),continuing:amp amp y’self mate (let my know if it feels good,and I’ll prolly try it!).Did you mean touche’?,or wanna touch?_Either way.
Love to Down Under[not necessarily you....but then!!....Meant Australia]
bill(Guillermo3)
November 3, 2011 at 3:12 am
@ Bill(Guillermo3) I just mentioned the “amp” thing to identify myself. A meant “a touch” as in “a little”, “a tad”, “a hint”. And not touchy (as in touchy feely) or touching anything. Keep your hands to yourself.
Love to everyone is the USA (no exceptions – but especially “Salt Lake City”) that includes you Bill(Guillermo3), I think?
November 3, 2011 at 3:22 am
@Guillermo3 and +J. Why don’t you two get married and carry out these arguments in bed?
November 3, 2011 at 3:32 am
@Jason(+J.):
Several things,Jason(+J.),mate:
1]Does this mean you’re not THE Jason?! I’m crushed!!
2]I won’t pick on your typing skills,provided you don’t pick on mine.
3]Relevance? It’s relevant if you live in Philadelphia,Pennsylvania[aka:Quaker-Krautland],U.S.A., I do :Fecking Bryn this,bryn that,cynwds ,etc__bleeding cymri all over the place!
4]Thanks for the compliment!BTW: I like fruitcake!!Some fruits are pretty nice too.
5]You may not say “Dye”,Jason(+J.),but plenty of antipodean hobbledehoys do.
6]I bet you’re cute,but,unfortunately,my vision doesn’t allow veiwing around the earth’s curve.
November 3, 2011 at 5:10 am
@ Joel – I could tell you where to stick that remark, but you may enjoy it. LOL. I hope it was made it jest. I’m over the whole saga of the “[Shift Key] 7″, well and truly!
November 3, 2011 at 5:44 am
@ bill(Guillermo3)
1. I am THE Jason? Are there others? Have you been cheating on me with other Jason’s?
2. Done! By the way, is “Ms. Clear” some internet search system (like Internet Explorer, Safari, Firefox or Google Chrome)? Or is it your drag name…. LOL.
3. Yes, relevance? TO THE TOPIC! You go off on some zany tangents. And what are you going on about. strewth?
4. I’m pleased you found that a compliment. I have a theory about Fruitcakes. Everybody is one and we spend our entire lives experimenting, trying to get the recipe just right. When we achieve the perfect balance and fruit and we enter the next phase of existence (die) / that or find out the missing ingredient we couldn’t uncover was…… (I’ve still living this life, so I don’t have the answer).
5. I actually don’t use the expression “G’day” at all. It’s a common misconception that we all talk like that. Only bushies (people who live in the country or the outback and central Australia) talk like that.
6 . I’m quite pleased you’re vision doesn’t extended across the curvature of the earth. But thanks!
November 3, 2011 at 6:03 am
@ Joel and Bill (Guillermo3) – Same Sex marriages aren’t legal in this country and the government, in their wisdom, won’t allow same sex couples the necessary documentation to marry overseas where such unions are not only recognised, but legal. However, it you are in a same sex marriage and married overseas before coming to Australia and taking up residency, your relationship has some legitimacy. Our recent census allowed same sex couples to indicate, for the first time, that they are in a marriage or marriage like relationship (aka: De Facto).
In summary: There can be no wedding!
November 3, 2011 at 4:26 am
@Joel:
Wrote & tried to post this a half hour ago,Joel,but that F-ing bitch,Ms.Clear was in one of her many bad moves:@@##!!((**&Amp it to Hell!!
Joel,
I think it would be lovely if Jason(+J.) and I were to marry!!Problem is that I can’t afford the air fare to Australia,and as i understand it,his wallaby doesn’t swim well[unusual for an Australian !].
There’s also the problem that I have four heads(3 have some semblance of a brain,the 4th is purely decorative).
The last time I encountered a group of Aussie guys was on-board a ferry from Greece to Brindisi.They were all very rowdy,most of them blond,and beautiful,lounging on-deck wearing little more than jock straps.One of them came to visit me here,unfortunately,fully-clothed,though.
Amp,amp.
November 3, 2011 at 4:54 am
@Guillermo3. As we are into sharing sea stories this A.M., here is mine. The first time I came upon a group of young Aussie guys was in San Juan, P.R. Our ship had docked at the naval base and our first stop ashore was the enlisted men’s club on base. There were a group of very rowdy Aussie sailors drinking beer, hooting and hollering. One guy jumps up on a table, drops his pants to his ankles, and his buddies dump cold beer on his bare ass. That’s ROWDY, Jason, in my book. Is that some Aussie drinking ritual? Love the Aussies, they are so uninhibited. In London (Eng.), the uptight English look down their noses at their free-spirited, Commonwealth compatriots. I’ll take the Aussies (and the Irish) any day. As a matter of fact, I have.
November 4, 2011 at 11:44 pm
@ Bill(Guillermo3) – the breakdown of your internet connection is why I’ve suggested previously that you type your comment in a word processing document first, then copy and paste it into the blog, that way you lose nothing. You mentioned not being able to use “Word”. Wouldn’t hurt you to learn. especially if it somes you some frustration.
November 5, 2011 at 12:00 am
@ Bill(Guillermo3) – correction on the above.
the breakdown of your internet connection is why I’ve suggested previously that you type your comment in a word processing document first, then copy and paste it into the blog, that way you lose nothing. You mentioned not being able to use “Word”. Wouldn’t hurt you to learn. especially if it “saves” you some frustration.
November 7, 2011 at 2:49 am
@ Bill (Guillermo3) and Joel,
I finally understand what Mr. Guillermo3 has been experiencing with the ampersand symbol. I have a post that was emailed to me today and the ampersand character appeared (hear represented by the number “7″) allowed by the “amp” – so it appears in the email 7amp. (Remember I’m substituting the 7 for the “amp” symbol to demonstrate this. How curious?
Note: to type an ampersand you press the “shift” key and the number “7″ key at the same time – hence the substitution.
Don’t judge me!
November 7, 2011 at 7:01 am
@Jason (+J)
I have been confused by the & from day one and still am. At first I thought it was one of Guillermo3′s idiosyncrasies, but then I notice it appears in other’s posts also. I asked him a long time ago if it had some special blogspeak meaning I was unaware of, like LOL. It gets me. Sorry if I said anything that made you feel I was judging you. What did I say? “&” frustrates me because it breaks my train of thought as I am trying to understand Bill’s posts and because I don’t know what it signifies by any author.
November 8, 2011 at 6:24 am
@ Joel (now “Joel J”?).
I think that this system / program supporting this blog may have issues recognising the ampersand symbol and overcompensates for it by adding the “amp” directly after the symbol. Perhaps it’s a grammar thing. It isn’t “blog speak”, it’s just a lazy short cut. I doubt I could interpret “blog speak” either. It’s a lot like text speak on a mobile (cell) phone. I’m still in the habit of spelling all my words out completely in my test (SMS) messages. It takes forever, but maybe I’m a traditionalist of sorts.
November 3, 2011 at 5:02 am
@Jason(+J.)
Well,Jason(+J.)___still really like your new tag!
Unfortunately,too much of the time,I DO have to keep my hands to myself!
I am not now,nor have I ever been a resident of Salt Lake City! I’m a different sort of Moron,and don’t sing well.
Amp,F-ing amp,con amore,
bill(Guillermo3)
November 3, 2011 at 5:23 am
@ Joel – No we Australians don’t ritual consume our alcohol anally. LOL. We have, however, been known to shove rolled up newspaper up our arses (butts), light them (on fire – the newspaper that is), then run around naked (whilst we’ve been drinking). Are you suggesting that Prince Harry (of England) has some Irish in him?
@ Bill (Guillermo3) – I’ve been to Salt Lake City, hence the reference!
November 3, 2011 at 5:45 am
@Jason(+J.):
Ok,Jason(+etc),
Glad to know you don’t,as a nation,consume your alcohol anally:I imagine that would bee a pain in the ass[arse],not at all enjoyable.
The Shift 7 saga is a mystery to meAm,other than good sense,missing something?
So why the ref. to Salt Lake?It’s fully of formerly polygamous Morons,singing in choirs,for Pete’s sake!!
Amp/amp
November 3, 2011 at 6:07 am
@ Bill (Guillermo3) – What character is printed when you hold down the shift key and while pressing the 7 key at the same time……?
November 3, 2011 at 8:02 am
Jason (+J). That sounds like an old American fraternity stunt: they hold a lighted match up to a guy’s arse as he farts and everyone watches the flames shoot out into the room. The Aussies have nothing on us there.
November 4, 2011 at 11:32 pm
@ Joel – Lightning Farts? That happens here…
November 4, 2011 at 11:33 pm
@ Joel – Lighting Farts! That happens here.
November 3, 2011 at 5:31 am
@Joel:,@Jason(+J.):
Joel,at 5:18am,this has become a bad habit!! (Oh,well!!One needs some vices,I guess:Just passed my 3rd year sans alcohol 2 days ago).
Please don’t boast of your conquests:I’m sure you’d welcome a nice tight,and very polite Brit bum any day!!
wasp-fully yours,
bill(Guillermo3)
Jason(+J.),
Thanks for clearing up Vo-Vo!That Mr.Wikipedia knows everything.
Amp/amp
November 3, 2011 at 8:06 am
@Guillermo3. Just trippin’ down memory lane. At my age, I’m entitled.
November 5, 2011 at 12:00 am
@Jason(+J.):
Jason(+etc.),I forgot to thank you for your suggestion about tying first in”Word”,which I have,but haven’t learned to use.SO:THANKS! Someone else suggested I do something similar using “Text-edit”.
Problem is that I’m a techno-tard,so very un-certain of my skills in cutting/pasting.
My primary comment,though,is that even after you’ve explained Iced Vo-Vos,I find I prefer Iced Volvos.Amp,amp!!
November 4, 2011 at 1:36 am
@Jason)+J.):[THE Jason]:
Well,Jason(+etc),
I’m frustrated!!Have several times_last night,7AM Thursday morning,this afternoon,& now written you a letter in my own,inimitable,deathless prose.and every time [except,I'm hoping,this one] it has failed to post.Oh!_the TRIALS of an internet writer’s life!!
You asked about that terminally,septicly diseased bitch Ms.Clear:VERY unfortunately,Clear is my wireless internet “connection,and Clear is CRAP.I’ve only been writing for a few minutes,but have had to restart Clear’s foul modem 4 times.Tragically,I’m stuck with a contract until January something.
Actually it was YOU,Jason(+J.),who mentioned the other Jason.You been 2-timing me,Mate?:I’m crushed!!!
What does “strewth”mean?I imagine it’s Australian,and translates into English as something akin to :”It’s the truth”,right?
As for my tangents,their due to a general Southern condition known as diarrhea of the mouth[or,in this case:mind],to the deranged way my thoughts free-associate,and to what are called cognitive deficiencies,due to side effects of cranial surgery(the surgeons attempt at a brain implant was,sadly,not successful.)So I DO GO ON.
[At this point,it might be a good idea to try posting this much,to test Ms.Clear's mood,and to continue later.]
November 4, 2011 at 2:06 am
@Jason(+J.):[continuing!]
Jason(+J.) !!!:
A miracle has occurred!! The above posted_apparently Ms.Clear is not,for the moment,on the rag.
Anyway:Continuing/concluding}
It really sucks,with teeth,that same-sex marriage is illegal in your continent.Here it’s legal,or not on a state by state basis.The fact that you have”De Facto” recognition is probably a good sign.In the States,it began as “Civil Unions”.The religious right is still campaigning against gay marriage where it’s up for approval,and for repeal in states where it has been legalized.Who knows why they get their shorts in a bunch over the issue?! My father,a very wise man,used to say that for too long,the Christian religion has been obsessed by what’s between people’s legs.
Thanks,Jason,for the shift7 info_haven’t tried it yet,but I shall.
Would love to see Australia! Over 20 years ago,I motor-biked in Crete with an Aussie couple__They[Pete and Lynn] were[I hope,still are] GREAT.Aboriginal painting was all the rage here at the time,and I’d read of a museum devoted to it opening in Adelaide.Oddly,they’d never heard of either,but “Dreamings,the Art of Aboriginal Australia” is one of the favorite books I have.
Well,enough for now,mateLong live Pricilla!!
bill(Guillermo3) AMP,amp!!
November 4, 2011 at 2:20 pm
@bill(Guillermo3):,@Joel,@Everyone:
In my response to Joel,arguing the benefits of a 2 parent family,I meant to type :”Unless Mommy is a ‘Ho”.not “if Ommy….”
November 5, 2011 at 12:07 am
@ Bill (Guillermo3) – Just noticed other Jason’s – not responding to them.
Strewth : exclamation, mild oath / An Australian, or “Aussie”, exclaimation, similar to the somewhat more popular “Crikey!”
November 5, 2011 at 12:36 am
I thought we spoke a common language. I was misinformed. LOL? Not sure how to take that.
November 5, 2011 at 12:36 am
@Jason(+J.):
Jason(+J.),Thanks,in truth for defining strewth.
As long as we’re be prissy about our I.D.s:Mine is bill(Guillermo3)_crikey!
Joel thinks that you and I are carrying on a long-distance affair through the offices of Davey Wavey,
I told him that is,unfortunately,not true:I think it;s my 3 heads what done it.
AMP/amp,
bill(Guillermo3)
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November 7, 2011 at 10:07 am
I wish you could come to Canada, we have gay marriages here and they are legal. It shouldn’t matter if you are gay or straight, love is love and if you want to honour your love by getting married, then you should be able to do just that. Personally I think that Kim had no intentions of ever sticking to her vows, it was all a big sham and a money grab. Hopefully the people in the US who are opposed to gay marriages see her sham and realize that she has done serious damage to their claims that marriage is only for a man and a woman.
Marriage is for two people who love each other, regardless of their sexual status. I feel terrible that because of one’s sexual orientation, that they can be denied the right to get married. For a country that claims to be enlightened, that’s hardly enlightening. I am a female, in a relationship with a male for the last 18 years. We have had our ups and downs like any couple, but we stuck it out. 72 days is a joke. It’s also an insult to anyone who wants to get married and because they are gay cannot.
I sincerely hope that this changes for gays, being denied a fundamental human right is illegal.
You can’t honestly even claim that you tried if you end a marriage after only 72 days.
November 8, 2011 at 6:27 am
@ Karen – I hear it is lovely there. No 2 tiered health care and education systems either, (ie: public and private). Everyone is equal.