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July 15, 2009 | 124 Comments
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Not so sure about this one.
35 is 35 and 18 is 18, and individuals have merit at both stages.
Additionally, there is such a wide range of individual behaviour at both ages, I think it damaging to generalize.
Perhaps as you ripen you now see differences that you didn’t see before, but that is more about you, then either 18 year olds or 35 year olds.
Totally. I’m in my 30’s, and I feel more like a teenager now than when I was actually a teenager…
Life somehow opened up, and there are so many possibilities now..
Aren’t you dating an eighteen year old?
maybe-just maybe-this is true.i was once 18-was once 35-now 54.life isnt so good now-damn-i wish i was 35-again.nice way to look at life,though.
i’m 18 (turning 19 in a month not like that matters)
and i agree that my peers only seem to have one thing
on there mind but i still don’t think that i could bring
myself to date a 35 year old. (sorry if you are 35 year old)
why is it so hard to find a good mix of both?
I’ve been saying that all along. Well sort of…30 is the new 20!
Why does it matter how old someone is? This is getting a little superficial Davey. A person is a person, you can love them no matter how old they are. If the person completes you, understands about him/herself, and has a good head on their shoulders it shouldn’t matter if they are 18, 36, 54, 72 or 90. Let people be who they want to be and don’t judge them by their ages. I have met 18 year olds far more mature than 35 year olds, and I have met 50 year olds who giggle when you say penis. Everyone is unique and should not be placed into generalizations.
No Davey, I disagree with you here.
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I love you Davey Wavey!
Oops last one didn’t work, hopefully this one will!
never mind… epic fail…
i dont know. that’s why i was hoping for a 25 y.o.?
I just realized…
…Davey, are you hitting on me?
I don’t necessarily rate anyone based on age, rather their level of maturity. I feel, as a 19-year old, I’m often taken for granted based solely on my age. I feel as if there are plenty of 35 year olds who act a if their 18, yet their are some 18 year old that can, and do act as if they’re 35. At my age, I have my own apartment and a steady income, all the while attending school full-time as a pre-med student. Maturity is more of a defining line for me, yet the line can never be definately defined.
**as if they’re 18
hehe
wow.
*yet there are some 18 year olds
thats what I get for typing at 3:30 am =p
hey davey
i have to say i recently turned 33 and after 30 life for me has totally rocked. but i think that what happens is after 30 you have to start dealing with your shit if you don’t want your life to be shit. i am definitely fitter and healthier and according to my friends more attractive too. i have found a beautiful spiritual path, i run, hike and mountain bike instead of drink and take drugs all night. i travel overseas 3 times a year and stay in great hotels as opposed to back packers. i had a wild time in my 20’s on the party scene but my 30’s are about living consciously with authenticity and there is no way I would want to go back – onward and upward!
I’m dating this 31-year old (he is 10 years older than me) and I can’t begin to describe how HOT and attractive this guy is to me. Before him, I dated and went out with loads of people my age and looking back on it, comparing it with my experience of this one guy I can say that this new guy is amazing. Davey-Wavey, you’re SOOO right! x
But Davey, I’m 36???!!!
OMG! yes I would love to!! But I bet you weren’t expecting thst from me were you? lol. I would love the opertunity to speak/write with someone who can speak both Japanese and English. I’m trying to learn the language myself through the Rosetta Stone Sowtware. anyways if you want to talk e-mail me Ratatosk45@aol.com
I agree – physical age often has nothing to do with your ‘attitude to life’ age. If two people click then ages, sexuality, ethnic background etc don’t enter the equation. What’s right is right if it works. Age is just a label that means as little as all other labels.
I’m 36 and I would date an 18 year old. I don’t like baby sitting. I’m not interested in taking on board their petty problems.
And DAMN it I just don’t like Generation Y. I’m sure I speak for my contemporaries.
I mean’t WOULDN’T date an 18 year old. Grrr, sorry about my blunder!
You know what David, you blow my skirt up. But don’t think I am desperate. I’m blown away by your attitude. It is attractive.
When I first came across you I just thought you were a Gen Y blow hole for the new age spiritualists (which I am one). Ha, I didn’t see or think of you as a sexual being. But you are gorgeous!
18 in 3 days! Hell yeah! xD
Turning 30 this year, I have been thinking allot about this.
To give you the honest answer, Life is short. If you like young guys that are legal then go for it. If your turn on is older guys then good for you. Enjoy life to the full, if you dont then no one will for you.
Enjoy your self, and as long as your safe who gives a crap..
As for myself, I have a BF thats 3 years younger. And a hand full.. lol
This must be a trend. I’m 40 this year and from the age of 34 until this year I cannot tell you how many guys in their teen and early 20s I have dated and ‘dated’. When I meet a guy who is 20, I can’t believe how interested he is when I am twice their age. I wasn’t like that back then. I was scared of older guys. Anyway, I think things have changed — luckily for me.
Yes Winston, I know what you mean. At our advanced age we seem to blow everyones skirt up!
Sweet! That’s makes me 26 again
I am an old perv (lol) but when I was 35 I was definitely at my dating peak. But 18 year olds are so nice to look at (sigh).
50 is the new 35. We have our shit together. We have the toys and we are not engrossed with the superficial things in life. In fact, we have been around the block enough times to realise that it’s nicer to relax and watch others rushing around the block getting nowhere! By now, we can appreciate all of the beautiful things in life. Peace.
LMAO, That’s what she said, great ending.
Oh, Davey Baby, where were YOU when I was 35?
When I turned 35 I was dating a fellow who was the most conceited, self-absorbed jackass you ever met. We didn’t last long for, while he liked older and more masculine men in bed, everything else had to be about him. I couldn’t take his neurotic tendencies, so we eventually split up. I wish you’d been around back then!
All of that being said, I’m going to have to step back a bit from your observation. While I agree that 35 — i.e., greater maturity — is attractive, and for many of the reasons you state, nevertheless maturity and “having one’s shit together” isn’t just about age. I know plenty of 35 – 40 year old men who are NOT mature, and I know many 18 – 26 year olds who ARE. I’m sure you realize this.
Blessings!
I am 26, I understand and completely agree with the video clip….
I am almost 40, comfortable with myself, financiall secure, got my shit together, experienced, sensible and mature. I also have a hot smooth attractive body and take care of myself. Younger guys find that very appealing. Experience and maturity matters. I live in the midwest and enjoy each sunrise. Still looking for Mr. Right to wake with each morning, regardless of his age. seanmagic1964@yahoo.com.
Davey, I am 53 look probably like 43 and have been going out with a guy that’s now 29 , I wouldn’t have ever thought I would date or go with a guy that much younger , but he was quite persistent and we get along terrifically, So one never knows ( I can just state I would have never dreamed of going with someone with that much age discrepancy … Good Luck to all , Nick
I just like men
No. But having just turned 26, he want to convince the 18 year olds that he’s still ok.
uh-oh!
LOL
David,
Nice frog. I am 50 and 35 being the new 18 is fine by me…age is just a number and I agree chemistry (attraction) is what it is all about.
Your erect nipples and body language in your vlog tell me that you met a 35 year old recently that fucks like he is 18 years old…you go boy
.
FYI, guys, 65 is the new 50! Yoo Hooo!!!
I think that an 18 year old has a lot more motivation than a 35 year old. because an 18 year old has a lot to experience and are eager to learn. And even though 35 is not old,I don’t think they’d be as motivated to do stuff. but everyone is different.
I’m 15 and I really want to get out and experience the world,but I have to wait until I get out of high school.lol
agreed
I would vote for two 18 years old to make it a total 36… so it can be better than one 35… LOL!
lol…slimy and huge! lol
but ya, personally, I would rather DATE a younger person. But for a relationship I think an older person is better.
But idk, there may be that some-young-guy out there that can change all that for me… ya?
=)
Oj
to Bill (above my comment) lol I TOTALLY AGREE!!! lol
It’s interesting that you made this talky blog today. I just came across an article on CNN…It’s about aging athletes still being at the top of their game. Science is definitely making guys look younger these days.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/07/16/athletes.comeback.endurance/index.html
Age and experience are important components but MILEAGE is having the experience multiple times over a period of time, in many directions. When I was 18, I enjoyed 35 year olds; at 35, I had a great time; now, at 47, I am healthier than 18, more experienced than 35, and enjoying more of life than ever before.
Thanks for your insight Davey!
Another attempt for a man to stay young and not grow up. Thats all we need some excuse to be called a boy. Reality check!! First of all what some guys on here say that an older guys is jaded, well you might be mixing that up with focus. At our age although we like to have fun, we have more responsibilities and possessions that we worked hard to get (as you will some day) like demanding jobs, self employed pursing our dream, own expensive cars, own home(s), etc. The only way to keep those things is to stay focused on life and the matter at hand that allows you to keep those things and that lifestyle. Any man in the mindset that he is in his teens, still partying and calling himself a boy(or boi in this cae) will not be anywhere close to making his mark in the world.
I am nearly in the same boat Chris! What you don’t realize while in your 20’s and 30’s is how QUICKLY the whole process is! Our parents tried to tell us this when we were younger but it never “sank in.”
Life is a “short story”….
“LOOK at the size of this frog.” xDDD
Davey, did I miss a chapter? What happened to Scotty Dynamo? I haven’t heard mention of him since Pride.
Face it, Davey… at 26 you are dead meat! As for 35– these guys can’t get it up and are usually carrying baggage from some previous guys they have fucked.
Of course, we all really just try to go on our own views and experiences; we all have a slightly different take on age. In my case, I “grew up” in a family with no money. My father was an alcoholic and my mother worked 3 jobs most of the time just to keep our house. If mom was not working 3 jobs, she would always be working at least 2 jobs (even today at 79 years of age, my mother works 2 and sometimes 3 jobs; although, these days her jobs are all part-time)!
The impact that this had on me was simple; while all of my friends were “getting paid by their parents” for taking out the garbage, I had to take out the garbage, cut our one acre of grass lawn every week, clean my room, help my dad whenever he was fixing one of our old cars (which was every weekend), clean up after dinner and countless other things just so I could basically stay alive! If I didn’t do my “chores”, I was always fairly certain that my father would kill me! And no, I never got “paid”.
When it came time to be able to go out with my friends during summer break (around 9 years old) I never had money to go to McDonalds and any other thing that cost money. So at 11 years of age, I went to work!
I would work almost every night after school, every Saturday and Sunday and all summer long so I could have my own money to go out with friends! I also gave money to my mother to help with the bills.
So at 11 years old, I was “my” new 18; at 18 I was the new 21; at 21 I was the new 30; at 30 I was the new 45; and finally, at 45 I was the new 65! Yes, that means I retired last year from working the usual 40 to 85 hours a week that I can only seem to recall working since I graduated high school!
So here I sit at 45 years all alone. Who would I like to spend the rest of my life with? Someone younger than I that’s who! I’m not looking to become anyone’s sugar daddy! He most have goals in his life far beyond than “meeting someone older that is loaded”!
It’s been my experience that in general, guys that are around 25 to 30 years old are just beginning to “get it”! Their party days are getting behind them; the bar scene is getting old and they are ready to settle down and start doing things with that someone special! I continue to have a very busy life and there are still a lot of things that I want to see and do! A younger guy would be perfect for me for at least two reasons; one, they will help keep me from becoming “too” settled in; and two, they are still willing to go and see everything!
I don’t expect any guy that I date (no matter what age they are) to “keep up” with my spending habits. If I feel that I need to get away this weekend, I do it! I understand that many people can not do these things; they may be living pay check to pay check. So if that feeling hits me, then I’ll pay for his way too!
Okay; I think I’ve gotten carried away here! My point is that it is all in how you (each of us) looks at “it”!
M.N.
wish that we’re all ageless!
I agree 100%. I am having more fun in my 30’s (at 34) than I ever did in my teens or 20’s. My older friends say it just gets better and better.
I think this was his rationalization for breaking up with his 18 year old BF Scotty…..eh?
You hit the nipple on the head there!!!!!! LOL
Well for me personally this whole 30 thing is true. Once i turned
30, life just changed for the better…. especially sexually, its like
i was so much more self excepting of myself and oozed confidence.
I was hotter that when i was in my 20’s — so i guess there must be
truth in the saying ” The Dirty 30’s”
SOS LOMASSSS!!
ajajaj
cuando volves a bs as???
beosos
hey there folks!
I totally agree with Davey Wavey…i’m 17 and would much rather date an older guy than someone of my own age because:
They’ve gained lots of life experince and good handsome looks…not boys looks and there not immature or anything really…
But the question is…would a 35 date a young guy??????
and why not??
Peace out!
Draco, it’s understandable that you’d want to date someone closer to your own age. At 18, you’re not much more than half of 35 years old. At 35, people are in a much different place. It’s funny, I’ve always been attracted to younger guys but at 34 I realize I wouldn’t date someone under 25, or so. Certainly I could make exceptions for a truly extraordinary 20-year-old (or whatever have you) but in my experience that age difference brings with it a tangible gap in people’s experience and development. You have a lot to experience at your age that I’ve already been through and although I enjoyed it I have no need to repeat it. I’m experiencing things, at my age, that you could probably not even fathom. Wherever you’re at is great – it’s the perfect place for you to be. And it’s totally up to you to be with someone with whom you feel comfortable and connected. Good on you for realizing it.
not all 18 year olds are the same.
I have a lot of friends that are 18 and are very mature
and even though they’re going to college,for their age right now they have their shit together. And I also have friends that don’t know what to do,and don’t have anything together. everyone is different. and I have met some very sad 35 year old men. I mean they don’t have a job,no college education,can’t pay for their own cell phone,living with friends,don’t have a car. So it varies from person to person
Does that mean 90 is the new retirement age? LOL
OH! Konnichi wa! O genki desuka! Watashi wa Julian desu. I would LOVE to rwite you! Boku wa anata no kiku sukidesuyo! That was wrong. Anyway I’d love to talk to you! sakuraguy93@aim.com or sakuraguy93@yahoo.com
it’d be cool to talk to someone from another country.^_^
26 sounds perfect.
x
monster frog!
55 is the new 35. If you exercise daily, eat healthy, and love yourself.
OMGGG Praise the lorddd !!!!!
sooo trueeee !!!!!!!!
older guyss do have theirr shit togetherrrrr !!!
soo muchh moree fun … noo money problemss
FYI i am 17 xD
I have always like people that are older than me and never really had a problem with it. i think that people in the 26 to 36 range are about the best for the same reasons Davey covered. being 21 I dont need anymore drama that comes along w/ being that young though if someone was closer to my age and had there shit together as much as i do id probably consider them to be more attrative than others.
I’m 55 and I can pass for 35. I am just thankful
to say I have been there. Now I enjoy being alone with myself. I take friends out to diner.
Or I get invited out. which is cool. I am ready
to retire in Northern New Mexico or Southern Colorado in the Hills somewhere and travel,
Meditate. And be one with the world.
In ref to rickyt on 7-17 at 4:33 pm, you sound like a really nice guy that has his
s–t together. I am sensible, mature, 40s, stable, financially secure. We have lots in common. Write me seanmagic1964@yahoo.com
I am a 46 year old gay Australian man, and I think you are right 35 is the new 18. Trust me, I have had a relationship with an 18 and it was fun. Then I have had a relationship with a guy my age and it was terrible.
It really do hate the ageism that at times is equated with being gay
surely its just a matter of maturity and outlook on life rather than the whole age thing??
The gay community is filled with ageism. Younger guys need to grow up. Thanks Davey for shedding light on the fact that “older” (35-45) guys have it together… yes, not all do. But, for the most part, there is maturity and experience that can bring so much more to a relationship.
Thanks for the insight, and for bringing it to the attention of your buds here. You’re such a bright guy.
Younger dudes are fun to look at, but mostly “hot messes” with lots to discover. They’ll figure it all out. I’m a GL 48-year old, and enjoy checking the youngsters out, but if I had wanted children, I would have had some. ;o)
I have to say whilst I agree with this in general it would be wrong to exclude someone from consideration because of their age. I am 20 but I think that I have been through a lot of experiences and I feel a lot older. I have my stuff together and I’d rather settle down than be like the 18 year olds that you describe.
I am a student and I do have debts but all the same, I work a part-time job at the same time and am soon going to be promoted to manager so I am more than capable of supporting myself. I have to agree though, I would want some crazy 18 year old sponging from me.
I have also dated people older than myself and have found that even they can be quite immature and all over the place and not really knowing what they want and then 19 year olds that are very grounded and mature. I guess my message is just that 35 is not always the new 18 and that you shouldn’t rule someone out because of their age before you get to know them. You might be surprised…
hi
Well i just wrote you a massive comment previously and it kind of had something to do with guys over 30!…
Well i still stick by with what i said…
BUT
i just turned 20 im may.. and ive been legal for 2 years (clubbing wise)
and no i ca see that you are right a 35 year old does have twice as many life experiences as an 18 year old, although an 18 year old, has a lot more freedom than what a 35 year old does, commitments, bills, car repayments life insurance, mortgage, those are all thing that 80% of 18 year old most probably dont have yet, so in saying that, it is more attractive to have someone who has their shit together and who is grounded, but is it not easier having someone who is 18 (or 20) and not have to worry about the other Adult shit in life????
X
Sebastian Young
I agree with you on all your points. I just turned 24, and while I feel like I’m heading “downhill”, deep down I know getting older is actually better. A lot of people I know that are in their 30’s tell me it feels like it’s the best time in their lives.
I’d much rather date a 35 year old than an 18 year old. MUCH less to deal with, and MUCH more to enjoy!
Yes!! Chronological age usually has very little to do with the maturity level of the person.
Oh oh! Sounds like Davey is dumping his younger bf! Dave- Can you confirm or deny this fact?
Ok so younger guys may not have their shit together but it’s not all younger guys right ? There is that small percentage that do have theirs together!
But honestly I’m not I. That percentage…. I’m don’t have my shit together because I choose not to. I’ve moved out of home a month ago and moved over 1000km away from my parents and I’m thinking about moving back because I HATE doing house hold chores! They are the worst! And I working sucks! It’s now a must not something for fun! That is the attitude of some one who is young and I am young but I know when to be responsible and when to be my age… So should we stick to our own age group ? Or should we just grow up and get our shit together so we can date older guys?!?!?!?
Sebastian!
No Sebastian…enjoy your life.
Do NOT hurry to grow up, nor should u waste anything trying to.
=)
Have fun and be good at everything u do!
=)
Oj
Dave,
I know this is a couple of days late, but i just want to say that i would really like to know what “Experiences” that you think you have had that are different than mine. I’ve been through a lot and i’m only 18. I’m not going to go into that here, but if you really want to know i’ll tell you. I also have a plan for my life. I’m going to college for to eventually become a lawyer. I have bills i have to pay a job which pays me entirely too little and i have my own car. I know that you probably are going to say you have all of that as well plus a house and a mortgage and all that dull and boring things that you get when you get older. But i also think that at 18 i can adapt to situations better than you can. And everything does vary to each person, but the older you get the more set in your ways you become. Take my dad for instance. If you use something and don’t take car of it right away he flips. So basically all that i am saying is that you really shouldn’t judge people by their age and make that a barrier. A lot of people my age have been through things you can only imagine. Also if you choose to say that you would never date an 18 year old except a truly extraordinaty one, i believe you are closing a potentially amazing relationshi that you could have…
Just my two cents,
Justin
I wanted to respond to Justin, the 18 yr old who wants to be a lawyer. Justin, you sound incredibly mature and focused, not typical for the average young man. It’s obvious to me you will not only meet your goals but excell as a lawyer. I would love to date somebody as sharp and driven as you are. Best of luck to you. seanmagic1964@yahoo.com
Hi Sebastian, yes working sucks. after all my years of working, I now can say it sucks.
All I wish to do is meditation and dream of what life can be. I am just finding out that
Time is a mentation, it all mental. Everything is Now! So go home and start to love doing
your house hold chore. And start to learn about the real you. You are not your body.
There are many books out there that can help you to become your true self. And then you
will become the master of your life. Haha a Master of Life do not work for a living
Sebastian, you are so right, working sucks!
rickyt
Paris, we are ageless. Being the body, you become that. Be your true self and
become ageless.
rickyt
There is more than one formula for life.
Being a workoholic and trying to amass great wealth and power or being a perennial teenager are not the only options.
After leading a rather formal and demanding lifestyle, I decided that that wasn’t getting me where I truly wanted to be, so I rethought my goals in life. I still have many responsibilities, and do many things, but do not feel overwhelmed by any, and have loads of fun, all the time (without getting drunk, or partying at clubs all night). In my 30’s, having seen many things, and befriended many sorts of people from many different backgrounds, I am more confident, feel (and look) younger, and am in better shape than ever before.
I used to think the same thing about working out. It was something I wasn’t used to, that I was bad at, and I hated it. But I did it, and what initially was suffering is now sometihng I enjoy immensely.
Work is a part of life, and it’s natural not to want to do it. But we should not be led by that initial disdain, as through work we define our life and ourselves. There is great value behind the smallest of chores. Don’t think of the chore, but rather of what you accomplish with it.
I for one would tell you to stop being so spoiled and, even if you do move back to your parents’, pull your weight around the house and a little more. Find it in you to like the unlikeable chore, because it has to be done, and you (yes, you) have to do it. A spoonful of sugar does help the medicine go down. Hit the stereo with some upbeat music. Dance while you sweep. Imagine your appartment being the centerfold for a design magazine. But do it yourself.
Being successful in life requires endurance. Not merely suffering things we don’t like, but actually trying to like the things we don’t like but have to do.
It’s funny to hear you talking about “35 is the new 18″. Is 44 the “new 27″ ? HA ! I remember being in my early 30’s and feeling pretty much like that was the best age to be. Then BOOM – I’m 44 ! It happens SO FAST !!! We’ll ALL die wrinkled, but only alone if that’s what you choose.
Cultivate good things in life and good things will come to you. Thanks for helping people see what the good things really are !
You are 35? but you look really awesome, just like 25~~~
I think you should give me a call.
I just turned 35 and i just see myself as ‘Old enough to know better, but young enough not to care’. Yes when i was 18 i thought a 30yr old was passed it, however now i’m passed the panic point of turning 30 i still feel the same, do the same stuff (Podium dancing like nobody is watching). Yeah i’d love to be 18 again… aslong as i could have my 35 yr old brain and morals (I had the morals of an alley cat when i was 18).
I think 25 and 35 are most attractive…
I somehow don’t like the number 30, ha ha
Then I would say that 40 is the new 21.
Having turned 40 this year I’d have to say that the last 10 years were the best so far and am looking forward to the next 10 years being even better.
I’m 26yrs old, and I’ve mainly dated guys my age or older..I think guys in their mid thirties are hot!…I’m not crazy about the 18-21yr olds b/c they don’t have their stuff together responsiblity wise and I’ve always been very mature for my age and taken care of myself and not dependent on my parents.
I’m 27 and I’ve dated a 42 year old who was a little kid, and a 22 who seemed more jaded (in the worst way) than anyone I’ve ever heard of. To contrast these, I’ve also dated a “fresh package” 20 year old, who was adorable, but completely inexperienced and lived in the dorms (that got old really quickly, pun intended) as well as a 39 year old who had the worst stories, even though he was healthy and successful. There were a ton of places he didn’t go to because “he had an ex that frequented them” Also got old fast!!! What I’m saying is: People are people regardless of their ages, yes people of certain ages are more likely to have certain attributes, but one should really be trying to date a person, not their age
That screws me over. I’m not even 18 yet. (or 17,16,15)
So, 35 might be the new 18, but I wouldn’t date a 35 year old unless I was 35. Right now, I would date a 25 year old just out of college. I come from a wealthy family so I’m used to paying for everything. You said in your video that 35 year olds have already been through everything. I would have wanted to be there with them when everything happened. All in all, I would not want to date a 35 year old yet, and they’re not the new 18. By the way, you so do not look 26. I thought you were 18 when I first saw you.
I would like you all to take a peek at my lenghty August 18 comment under the caption “To the generations before me: thank you”.
Read about my recent third coming out.
What more can I say? OK, that money never, ever played a role in my growing up or in my pick of friends or mates. We were poor together in poor times and rich together in rich times. And I mean: rich, but not always moneywise.
Now that I’ve turned 60, for the first time in my life I’m also being dated by men who are OLDER than me. I must say, I feel comfortable having all sorts of relationships with men in the age group 20-45 as well as with men in the age group 45-65.
And now that I’ve turned 60, I dare say that I certainly feel like the NEW 35 y/o, he he he.
Let’s hear what you have to add to that…!