A few weeks ago, I asked: Are you born gay? And hundreds of you weighed in through the comments. I knew that a talky blog was in order!
Congratulations to commentator “Clarke N” for winning the $25 gift certificate to jockboylocker.com.
A few weeks ago, I asked: Are you born gay? And hundreds of you weighed in through the comments. I knew that a talky blog was in order!
Congratulations to commentator “Clarke N” for winning the $25 gift certificate to jockboylocker.com.
July 28, 2009 at 9:40 am
hahah I love the ending,
The force be with you
July 28, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I really loved the *surprise part, amazing video man!!
Succes to you!
July 29, 2009 at 8:04 am
Read the scientific literature! There is increasing evidence for a genetic basis to human sexuality…
July 29, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Hi Tom, I also read the weather, it’s only as accurate as the weather is, and the important thing is that you’re respected.
July 28, 2009 at 10:56 am
that teeth shot was priceless
July 29, 2009 at 9:54 pm
“LOVE IS LOOOOOVEEEE!!!”
ROTFL!!!!!
I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!!!!! XD
July 28, 2009 at 11:10 am
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July 28, 2009 at 11:28 am
….. >.>
July 28, 2009 at 11:28 am
what, are you collecting us?
July 28, 2009 at 11:11 am
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July 28, 2009 at 11:56 am
… ok i disagree i would choose to be gay as many times as i was asked. its as much a part of me as my arms and legs and mind. i love who i am as a gay male. now that being said im not out and proud yet but im planning on doing something about that fairly soon. but i firmly beleive both: i was born gay, but my currant boyfriend casey became bisexual when i told him i liked him. so i beleive it goes both ways really
July 28, 2009 at 4:09 pm
I agree with you there. Along with myself, I’ve had a few friends enter into same-sex relationships because someone special had come into their life. Anyone have a similar experience??
Cheers!
July 28, 2009 at 12:09 pm
I think its all about attraction, ppl have fall for each other not for the fact they are of different or same sex but simple for attraction.
July 28, 2009 at 12:23 pm
i please you to keep on blogging
don’T get to sing too often XD joke 
loll
i agree with you, attraction for a sex might be ”corrupted” by many differents things like the environment, sexual abuses, etc…
anyway , nothign else to say ,
HAVE A NICE DAY
July 28, 2009 at 12:38 pm
I definitely agree, we have no “choice” in the matter, but there is no doubt that there are multiple factors during our mental and physical development that shape who we come to love as adults.
The sad thing is, even some of our fellow gays have been brainwashed to believe that we have made a choice. In my experience, a bisexual girl friend of mine who I briefly dated in school (I’m sure most of us have done something similar while coming to terms with themselves) feels that because I once dated girls, I must be at least bisexual. She sees my “total” homosexuality to be my decision. I can’t make her understand what going through my mind back then (though honestly, sometimes I don’t understand it myself).
July 28, 2009 at 3:31 pm
..did Clarke also get the 30 minute ab workout?
[good choice, BTW, Clarke's post was very insightful]
July 28, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Hey Davey Wavey! I love your blogs a lot, I just find them very insightful, wise, and inspirational. Keep them up!
hugs,
Michelle
July 28, 2009 at 4:56 pm
that was oddly enough the what i’ve always thought on the matter…well except for the weird baby, singing crazy parttt…? but yea that rocks that i know someone else who can think in the way i do about how someone becomes gay {affecded by the world around them}
July 28, 2009 at 5:27 pm
lol surprise hihi by the way everything you said so true love u lots.like everyone else…
July 28, 2009 at 5:30 pm
to think that u are known worldwide like s**t man im in france and i metion ur blog my frendz already know man damn ur popular no ur not popular ur a celeb up there with prince and ricky martin lol even though prince isn’t gay…
July 28, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Nice video!
I think you’re right that it is a Nature VS. Nurture issue… I knew I like guys from a very young age, and when I grew I knew that meant I was gay. But I also know a lot of gay guys that thought they were straight for a long time, till they realized they actually liked guys… and became gay.
July 28, 2009 at 7:09 pm
you are FREAKING me out.
nice way to answer and not answer all answers are right so there really is no answer yadda yadda circle jerk we get it
July 30, 2009 at 1:19 pm
LOL
If there is an answer, it’s probably more complex than we’d like to think about…
but the question matters for itself, not because of the answers.
It’s like a riddle that is made for people to think, and through that process of debate and questioning people learn, and are thus closer to acceptance.
Homophobia is fought by fighting ignorance.
July 28, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Hi there,
I just wanna thank u man. I found ur videos on youtube by coincidence and I couldnt stop watching one after another …
I know my comment is not related to the subject but I just wanted u to know how I felt about ur videos .. its 4:30am now where I live and I dont want to sleep before finishing all the videos ..
wish u all the best in life ..
breaktheillusion.com is on my favorites now and I’ll keep checking it up .. keep it up .. peace
July 29, 2009 at 12:37 am
There are some truths/values that we all share, whether culturally or socially, or just as humans in general. The difference between right and wrong, (though, even that is debatable)…and knowing them, inside and out, is just like knowing that you were born gay, or bi, or straight, or trans, or etc. You just know…
Ciao!
July 29, 2009 at 4:16 am
Well, there´s everything said in that talky blog and I´m realy impressed how you Davey can sum up the essential of all the comments that easy, and it sounds quite as a law of nature.
In my oppinion this is not only about sexual orientation it´s also about to be respectfull to others in any way, in general…
July 29, 2009 at 6:59 am
In the end, Nature vs. Nurture, born gay vs. developed into being gay, Straight vs. Gay vs. Bi vs. Trans vs Intersex vs Effeminate… Does it really matter how someone is defined by themselves or by others?
If someone is a decent, loving person of character that is not trying to hurt someone else for being different then it is nobody else’s business how their sexual orientation is defined.
July 29, 2009 at 7:34 am
Yes you are born gay. Genetic the Jean’s (No not 501′s) AS we grow inside our mothers we at 1st not sex at all. The high % of jeans decides what sex we are. If the male jean % is very high you are straight if the % is lower and the female jean % is higher you are gay as you are attracted to Men. Also there are cases we know where the % are very close but are born a man when should have been female thus a need for sex change.
This is Human nature and also happens in the animal kingdom and plants etc
Martin
July 29, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Martin, as I understand biology, yes, you are a male or female when the X or Y sperm fertilizes the egg. A few folk have other genetic designs, but the vast majority of animals (and humans are certainly animals) are either male or female from the moment of conception. It has nothing to do with the higher or lower concentrations of hormones, caffeine, sugar, soy or whatever in the mother.
As for being gay, where do you get your information that a higher % of ‘male’ genes makes you straight (does this hold true for both males and females?) and a higher % of ‘female’ genes makes you gay? Sounds like a back handed way to bash the women, if you ask me. Men make you straight and women make you gay – hogwash.
August 4, 2009 at 6:02 pm
First, plants can’t be gay. This sounds harsh I know, but plants don’t carry out reproduction through the act of seeking a mate. They use wind or other organisms to pollinate other plants with their genetic material. And most angiosperms (flowering plants) possess male and female reproductive organs anyways, so they’re all the same double sex to begin with. There are exceptions like kiwis! which have male and female plants. Even if a male kiwi were capable of wanting a to attempt reproduction with another male kiwi it would never know because insects and wind to the mate matching for plants (mostly at random).
Now as for humans (and animals), I’m not sure what you mean when you say the % of male genes, what genes? The genes in the y chromosome? lets look at it this way XY makes a guy right? so if the % of Y is significantly greater than the % of X the person is straight? This doesn’t make any sense to me since in women the y chromosome is not even present how would the lesbian come to be? And would this be more pertinent to determining things like testosterone levels or masculinity? As for all of the other genes in the human genome, which ones of those are male? All people of every race gender and sexuality have 99.99 percent of the same genes. I mean we even 70% of our genes with plants…
August 4, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Typo on the last line: I mean we SHARE 70% of our genes with plants…
July 29, 2009 at 7:45 am
s**t man i hate to love you because u and ur vids are like a drug just can’t kick em man love it love want more =)
July 29, 2009 at 12:54 pm
You have most excellent teeth, Mr. Wavey!
The only “choice” surrounding sexual orientation is choosing to accept yourself for who you are and accepting to whom you are attracted.
July 29, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Yes, I say we are born gay, hetero, bisexual, however we are.
Alfred Kinsey found (and this I believe) that most of us are bisexual to some degree. There are very few 100% gay or 100% hetero people. A lot of it depends on your environment, family, who you meet and what the circumstances are, how comfortable we are in acting on our innate feelings. But the feelings are there, and we have no choice in those.
20 years ago I had a very bad car accident, and among other injuries I smashed my head. I was in a coma for 7 days and very out of it for months (years really). My memory “starts up” about 2 months after my accident.
As I was re-learning the world, and my memory was getting better but still very bad (I’d forget what happened to me from one minute to the next – literally) as I learned my name over and over again, how to talk, how to walk, feed myself, brush my teeth, as I re-learned everything I never had to re-learn I am gay. That was with me from the moment I first became aware again, even before I knew my name again or could recognize my family & friends.
I know this because I liked looking at my male roommate. He was a cute guy, and I got a charge I didn’t understand but was still happy to experience when I looked at him or saw his naked body when a nurse was giving him a bed bath. I had no similar feelings for any of the nurses. I do remember one of them had very large breasts. Those kind of fascinated me. Not in a sexual way, but they gave her a very off shape and I wondered if they ever made her fall over.
My brain injury has also shown me I am bisexual, but a lot more gay than hetero. It showed me this as I didn’t have a strong connection to my past and so could experience what I felt and not filter them through expectations of how I “should” be, not get hung up on labels I used to identify myself. There are a few women (I think 3) who I’ve ever met who I have had sexual feeling for, and all my sexual experiences have been with other guys.
I identify as gay because that is my primary orientation, all my experience and where I want to live. I even got myself married to another man, living here in Massachusetts. I was born feeling as I do (I remember being fascinated with the male gymnasts while watching the Olympics in the 1970s when I was a kid, but not having any of the same charge for women) and I imagine this is how the vast majority of other gay people feel.
July 30, 2009 at 1:24 pm
How very interesting!
Thanks for sharing such a unique perspective. Quite enlightening.
(Genes and environment both play an important role, in some, one factor plays a greater role than the other, and viceversa…)
July 29, 2009 at 8:52 pm
I was just thinking about myself this morning – when I thought I knew that I was attracted to the same sex. My earliest recollection was 13 years old. I remember having a crush on one of my classmates. It was just that admiration from afar, but it was clearly a physical attraction. I also can remember that when I had my first sexual encounter with a male, I knew exactly what to do. No prompting or discussion took place prior to the act. I don’t ever recall having a sexual attraction to females.
July 29, 2009 at 9:43 pm
GREAT TALKY BLOG. One of the best so far. Keep up the good work. Love the funny stuff. Keeps it light. Along with inspirational messages. So good!
July 30, 2009 at 8:08 am
gr8 topic-gr8 answers.bottom line-we are what we are.
July 30, 2009 at 10:40 am
If you can find “The Making of Me first broadcast on 24 July 2008 on BBC One” John Barrowman (HOT) tries to find the reason he is gay. It is interesting to watch and see maybe what it is that makes anyone gay. Like you said there are many ways that it happens so their won’t be a genetic test to kill babys that are going to be gay, or one thing that holds the key. We are who we are and there is no being different; we are who we are!
July 30, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHGEJntjgMo
[I've posted this twice already here on Davey Wavey, but don't mind one bit. Excellent documentary]
July 30, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Procrastinating incredibly… I just found this documentary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U9CVM8Kiag&feature=related
The “Cure gay” movement is targetting young people, who are defenseless. The harm they’re doing to these kids in beyond measure.
July 30, 2009 at 8:38 pm
In 1973 I did a speech in my High School Speech class. I really don’t recall the subject. As usual it was always controversial culminating in a grueling question and answer session that annoyed the monitor’s sense of decorum. ” Bing, you are the only one who is forced to do interviews after your speeches. I don’t know if this is a good thing or not. The returns aren’t in yet, it will depend on how much overtime you go, given there are no provisions for a question and answer session.” (He later stopped all the interviewing–it never worked. It even got so bad that people not even in the class including the school paper would get on the “bandwagon” when word got out that I was , yet again, scheduled for a speech.) A question was posed, ” What are your feelings on homosexual discrimination?” (the term “gay” wasn’t in general use then, and I still have issues with the assumed differentiation of gays as opposed to lesbians. “Can’t we all just get along.” as Rodney King so eloquently revealed.) My answer shocked every body. I said, ” I’m not really concerned as much with those who oppose a lifestyle chosen, as I’m concerned with those who would discriminate against women or blacks or both. Neither of which had a “choice.” ( I was dating a black girl at the time. That kept a lot of people more than just curious. I asked my friends to show the discretion I have, the others could just continue to keep “guessing” for their amusement.) I was reminded of Stonewall. All I remembered at the time was the death of Judy Garland at the time, not a hissey fit by drama drag queens, that I never eluded to. So I artfully dodged that one. I later got called out by a PE coach ( not my own) right out on the field in front of several of my peers, about my alleged unproven homosexualness.(sic) A girl friend of mine( obviously not there, being boy’s PE) demanded that I go to the Superintendent’s office demanding that a board hearing be conviened for the removal of said teacher’s position and pursue a libel case.(Liberace had such a case with a tabloid paper in the 50′s and won a $50,000 judgment, when he much later died of AIDS, said paper retorted, “Any chance we can get our money back?”)I did not pursue such action(s) then. They were different times then. The one thing that hasn’t changed then as now is it is nearly impossible to get rid of even the most flagrantly incompetent of teachers in the State of California. (standing, test scores–”A” student would be a struggling “C” student on Davey’s coast, Are your schools funded in large part by a state lottery? Does your governor take funds out of said lottery in the form of “loans” with no “terms” to pay back? Then stick it to students with ever increasing fees while reducing funding? Does he say that he doesn’t raise taxes, but reduces services while charging extra for them? Is it not a “tax” when it affects those disenfranchised? I guess it’s only a tax for those rich who have “deductions.” Did your governor in 1974 go to Santa Monica City College for free? When my sister graduated a year after me she didn’t get the gold seal on her diploma. Not accredited. Death blow to any school. I was told by a member of the committee while he was observing in one of my classes the year before, after a bit of conversation he said ” Fortunately for your graduating class it is too late for my recommendation to affect you. It will go into affect the following year.” To this day I am still being badgered by former staff and classmates on what he said to me on that faithful day over 30 years ago. For those concerned people who might be reading this post–Now you know. I was told by my therapist back in 1973 that “our community has been advised to tell you that homosexuality is not to be considered an “illness” and we’re being advised not to refer to it as.” Later in 1974 I was told by her it was “official” that she had it on her desk from the “powers that be,” if I wished to peruse it. I latter saw it on my own and commented to her that referring it as “deviant behavior” seemed worse. She said, “I too, have issues with that.” I never outed myself even to her back then. When one of my “groupies” tried to pick up on me he was told ” We don’t advise you to communicate with each other.” Kinda like Ricky Martin’s evasiveness when asked the “question.” Think of Clinton’s “ask don’t tell” wimpiness. Now the Obama administration seems to be “towing the line.” Maybe WE do need a third party.
July 31, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Was I born Gay, yep!
It wasn’t environment or nurture, I was born into a southern family, raised on a farm.
Hunted, fished, worked the farm, processed live stock for market, I was on the school football team. Tried to join the Marine Corp (failed, too young).
But since I was a little child I liked the boys, nothing sexual, just felt right.
Even when I tried to “go straight, to fit in, by dating and having sex with girls” it just didn’t work.
My partner and I are very happy, I’m happy being who I am, the way God made me, Gay.
August 2, 2009 at 3:45 am
i believe being born gay is very possible and shouldnt be a bad thing at all.
August 5, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Being born gay … I believe this could be true, but can’t be sure. yeh, you can be attracted to someone’s personality and so on, but it doesn’t have to mean love. I think in some cases being gay depends on your life and surroundings. Maybe (please don’t take offence) if you werent so lucky with the girls you think, guys! I had a girlfriend, but i just thought to myself one day, i don’t love love her; she’s my best friend. It was at that point that i realised that i like girls as friends and that i would not actually develop any sort of long time relationship. I have always had lotsa friends that are girls, but neva eva wanted to have them in a permanant relationship. I think being gay is .. i don’t know. I like being who i am, and there is no problem with being gay. Thrive to be as natural as you can, not what others want you to be!!!
August 8, 2009 at 1:23 pm
I agree with Davey. Sexual orientation is not a test where you have to choose:
()straight
()gay…
We are all the time trying to find an explanation for everything and we sometimes forget that things can just be.
August 8, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Just saw your vid! CLASSIC!
I do not know if there is a gay gene, but is there a straight gene? I DONT THINK EITHER HAVE BEEN FOUND!
But that does not mean that being gay is a choice. I do not believe it is at all!
thanks for greay blog!
August 11, 2009 at 11:09 am
I think people are born gay… because we do not control our hormones, there was an experiment done to heterosexual males and females and homosexual males and females. NOT THAT TYPE OF EXPERIMENT ***MIND OUT OF GUTTER PLEASE*** So an experiment was done to find out how the brain of these persons react to sweat of their own genders and sweat of their opposite gender. They found out that homosexual males react similarly to men sweat as heterosexual females do, while homosexual females react similarly as a heterosexual males do to women sweat. So if this experiment was done to a bisexual male or female… what would the result be?